It’s the height of spooky season, which means there is no better time for a good horror movie. Hosted by Gracie and Abbey, longtime friends and self-proclaimed horror nerds, Good Mourning Nancy is about their favorite scary movies that will lift your spirit and give you the strength to join the living for the rest of the day! We chatted with Abbey and Gracey about what inspired them to start a horror podcast and their love of true crime!
MMN: What inspired you to start your podcast?
Gracie: It started in 2017, with both of us feeling sort of stuck in our jobs at the time! I was working an entry-level office job and Abbey was a barista. We had both gone through some personal trauma around this time as well so we needed a creative outlet. I had just started getting into podcasting the year before and was listening to shows like The Last Podcast on the Left and Serial. I didn’t want to focus on true crime in our show though. I felt like that had already been done a lot. I wanted to talk about horror movies, especially feminism in horror movies. My husband had been working in radio and film for over 12 years so we already had some mics which was nice. He taught me how to edit the audio as well. I got my sister, who is a film composer, to write our theme song and Abbey’s boyfriend at the time took our promo photos. We started out just discussing the film in general (what happened during production, what we liked about the movie, The actors, the set designs, etc.) and then we discussed how the women are portrayed. But as our listener base grew, we became more inclusive. Now we discuss how LGBTQ+ people and how BIPOC are portrayed as well. We also became less casual in our discussions and more academic. All in all, it’s a homegrown podcast made with lots of love and determination.
Abbey: When Gracie asked me to be a part of the show, I was thrilled. This was an opportunity for me to be creative in a new way. I’d never done anything like podcasting. I’m an artist and I love studying psychology, so this was a great way for me to expand my horizons and learn more about feminism, something that has always been so near and dear to me, along with the horror genre.
MMN: What got you interested in true crime? Was there a murder in your hometown? A story that has always haunted you?
Gracie: I think the story that got me hooked was JonBenet Ramsey. I remember seeing her face on the cover of tabloids in line at the grocery store when I was a kid. I was so taken by her… who is this little girl? What happened to her? It scared me as a child. It still does. Now, Kenneka Jenkins’ story will probably always haunt me. Elisa Lam’s story too. I think because there was no foul play that they could find. Their stories are strange mysteries. Kenneka accidentally locked herself in a freezer and Elisa accidentally drowned. Both in hotels. Very creepy and extremely heartbreaking.
Abbey: I watched The Bone Collector with my sisters when I was way too little, and my parents would always watch CSI and Dateline with us, so really it started at home! From there I got into true crime TV shows and when I started podcasting Gracie suggested a few true crime podcasts to me. It was kind of wild, because I never knew how many people were into true crime until I was much older, and then when I came to that realization, I felt like I could exhale and talk about my favorite cases. One that really fascinated me was Jonestown. I listened to the Jonestown tapes a few years after learning about the incident and was horrifying. The psychology behind cult mentality (especially murder or suicide cults) is something that I really wanted to explore in my psychology education.
MMN: What’s a murder, disappearance, or crime story that keeps you up at night?
Gracie: The Watts family murders are so awful. There aren’t enough answers to why he killed them. There aren’t any answers, really! Every time I think of Shanann and her babies I start to cry. Just terrible. I hope Chris Watts is haunted by his actions for the rest of his days.
Abbey: I have a very hard time hearing or learning about child murders. Albert Fish is a pretty obvious one and I think a lot of true crime fans will agree that his case is one of the most disturbing. Also anything that involves cannibalism. The Lady of The Dunes was also one that’s always bothered me! Someone definitely knows something!
MMN: What true crime podcasts are you listening to right now? If podcasts aren’t your thing, we would also love to hear about a spooky book you’re reading or your favorite murder-related tv show!
Gracie: I still actively listen to The Last Podcast on the Left. I also really like Criminal, hosted by Phoebe Judge. I just started watching Love Fraud on Showtime and the new Unsolved Mysteries! I also actively watch Forensic Files on Netflix! Sometimes I watch it to help me fall asleep! I love watching Dateline too. We recently did an episode on the movie From Hell (2001) so the latest true crime book I read was The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper by Hallie Rubenhold. I love that it focuses on the women’s stories rather than his. It’s eye-opening!
Abbey: I absolutely love Last Podcast On The Left for all things weird and true crime, but I just finished up Conviction, the series they covered about satanic ritual abuse and it was excellent. Highly recommended!
MMN: How can our readers find and support you?
Gracie: You call find us on our website www.goodmourningnancy.com and you can also become a patron at www.patreon.com/goodmourningnancy! We have a facebook, instagram, and twitter account as well. Just look up Good Mourning, Nancy!
Abbey: We also have podcast merchandise available on our website! We have tons of stuff on there, so check it out if you want to snag a cozy sweater or your new favorite mug!